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Aron Schatz

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:32:02 AM #25477 Perm Link

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If Youtube starts filtering copyrighted content, it will go down. The only reason I use Youtube is to watch shows that I missed which should be fair use anyway considering they were broadcasted over the air.

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Doomzies

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:15:06 AM #25478 Perm Link

I use it to watch music videos and stuff

What are we but caged birds?

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:25:53 AM #25479 Perm Link

Aron, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. TV shows are not fair use after they are shown, because they are paid for with advertising revenue. Even when you use a VCR to record a show, you will be the only one watching it. Putting it on YouTube is essentially welcoming tons of people who didn't want to watch the show with commercials to watch it on the Internet. Some channels (Comedy Central, for example), are okay with this because the shows that are put up from them (Daily Show and Colbert Report) aren't used in reruns more than once or released on DVD's.

Michael: Jodie, how's my schedule look for today?
Jodie: You've got a conference and dinner party at the Japanese Embassy regarding wildlife protection.
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Aron Schatz

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:35:54 AM #25481 Perm Link

In response to Tornado #25479

Flawed arguement. If something is broadcasted over the air it is public domained and people have the right to look at it a second time and then a third, etc... At no point does that right go away in the future.

Regardless if the network placed ads in the delivery, that doesn't matter. If you consider the entire stream as the content, modifying it for fair use is also legal.

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Tornado

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:56:19 AM #25483 Perm Link

That is true that is in the public domain. However, as the company still owns the copyright to the material they still reserve the right to take it down whenever they want.

Michael: Jodie, how's my schedule look for today?
Jodie: You've got a conference and dinner party at the Japanese Embassy regarding wildlife protection.
Michael: Oh, yeah...sorry, but I'll have to cancel that. I'm heading out to save America!

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:10:41 AM #25484 Perm Link

Good news everyone! Youtube will still survive because there's lots of good home movies there from brendon small. Also, chad vader.

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Aron Schatz

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:03:08 PM #25485 Perm Link

In response to Thefremen #25484

Bad news, Youtube won't survive on that alone.

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Artemis Panthar

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:04:15 PM #25489 Perm Link

That's kind of a moot argument, Tornado. Given the rising popularity of Tivo and other DVRs, commercials are wholely passed over anyway and will eventually became obsolete. So the 'ad revnue' argument will no longer hold in the coming years.

Also - when you tape a show you're not necessarily the only one to watch it. You can pass around a video, invite people over, trade it on the internet. The only thing that makes it legal is the fact that you're not <i>selling</i> it. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but YouTube is free.

Frankly, if a company refuses to put a show on DVD, they ought to put the episodes online or something. I'd happily buy DVDs of countless shows but since they don't make them and they're rarely on, I'll find another way to watch them.

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Tornado

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Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:07:32 PM #26261 Perm Link

I do believe it has started. There are 25,000 less Daily Show clips on there than there were just two weeks ago. Thank god Google Video isn't as heavily monitored, becaue I was looking for the 9/12/06 Daily Show Opening.

Michael: Jodie, how's my schedule look for today?
Jodie: You've got a conference and dinner party at the Japanese Embassy regarding wildlife protection.
Michael: Oh, yeah...sorry, but I'll have to cancel that. I'm heading out to save America!

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Aron Schatz

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Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:14:44 AM #26271 Perm Link

I have also read the headlines that Youtube has begun to crackdown.

Google may have purchased a turd.

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Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:26:11 PM #26309 Perm Link

Youtube is going downhill. They are removing all the good content...

We'll have to move somewhere else again.

-SHCase

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Wed Nov 1, 2006 5:03:55 AM #26324 Perm Link

of course YouTube would survive. It would just lose a lot of popularity.

It is impossible to have the copyright of something in the PD, Tornado. "Public Domain" basically means that everyone has equal copyright.

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